Arse. That'll be the gearbox then...

[Topper]

Is the big problem with the 6-speed not the release bearings?

 

[Nicely]

No. Its a counter gear circlip.

 

[Topper]

:thumbs:

 

[dammsy]

No. Its a counter gear circlip.

what are the symptoms if the circlip goes.i mite have the problem

 

[Nicely]

The only hint I had may have been the gearbox making a noise a few days before. Basically, if it comes off the shaft is going to go out straight away...

 

[dammsy]

The only hint I had may have been the gearbox making a noise a few days before. Basically, if it comes off the shaft is going to go out straight away...

if it comes off does it still drive.3rd doesnt feel good.can heara noise in 1'st second and third.4th up seems to be ok

 

[Nicely]

That doesn't sound good 4th/5th will be quieter because they are nearly 1:1 and won't be using the counter gearshaft. If its gone, driving it will cause damage.

 

[dammsy]

That doesn't sound good 4th/5th will be quieter because they are nearly 1:1 and won't be using the counter gearshaft. If its gone, driving it will cause damage.

just happened tonight 6th seems ok.mainly 3rd.rebuild then?

 

[Nicely]

Certainly needs further investigation If its like mine, then a rebuild or replacement :nod: If you get it rebuilt, I can tell you exactly the bit that needs strengthening to leave you with a much stronger box.

 

[RyanH]

Is there any preventative maintenance which can be done to prevent this problem?

It all seems to be caused by that circlip?

 

[Nicely]

The info I have is that its a 50/50 thing, depending on driving style and power. And, yes, its a single circlip apparently. The box can be strengthened by removing the 3rd/4th counter gear, getting a new, tighter, groove machined and a tight circlip.

According to Brad (used to by on here, but on NS.com) the 6MT box is much better quality than the 5MT. He saw the internals of both boxes and said there was no doubt about the quality difference. Its just that fooking ciclip...

I've sold my old box on to someone who is going to rebuild it, so I'll ask him to take photos and get his opinion on it.

 

[elizium]

"and what will you do with the old box if you repair it"
... he asked in a pointed fashion

 

[dammsy]

The info I have is that its a 50/50 thing, depending on driving style and power. And, yes, its a single circlip apparently. The box can be strengthened by removing the 3rd/4th counter gear, getting a new, tighter, groove machined and a tight circlip.

According to Brad (used to by on here, but on NS.com) the 6MT box is much better quality than the 5MT. He saw the internals of both boxes and said there was no doubt about the quality difference. Its just that fooking ciclip...

I've sold my old box on to someone who is going to rebuild it, so I'll ask him to take photos and get his opinion on it.

so the clip would cause it to make the bearing noise or is that an extra had a ring round and a place called dp motorsport can do it.they did my cousins evo and its fine.duno if youve heard of them

 

[Nicely]

The thing is, that the clip is holding the counter gears together... Wasn't DP Motorsport where Meddy got the car RRd? Might be thinking of somewhere else...

Chris: I've forgotten something haven't I? Did I say that? If I did, I think it was whilst the box wasn't rattling cogs around inside...

 

[dammsy]

The thing is, that the clip is holding the counter gears together... Wasn't DP Motorsport where Meddy got the car RRd? Might be thinking of somewhere else...

Chris: I've forgotten something haven't I? Did I say that? If I did, I think it was whilst the box wasn't rattling cogs around inside...

would make it harder to select gears then.rc developments i think he had it done.guna have to come out anyway tmoro i think,looks easy

 

[Nicely]

Rich, Phil Morrison's 6MT is still available and I've reserved it for you

 

[dammsy]

Rich, Phil Morrison's 6MT is still available and I've reserved it for you

nice one any ideas on price.wot u think i should do with the old one though

 

[Nicely]

If you don't want to rebuild it yourself, I'm sure there are people who do :nod:

 

[Nicely]

If you don't want to rebuild it yourself, I'm sure there are people who do :nod:

 

[dammsy]

If you don't want to rebuild it yourself, I'm sure there are people who do :nod:

depends wot its like to do.could keep it as a spare if i did