Does Short-Shifter kill your gearbox?

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I'm thinking of getting a short shifter for my 6Spd gearbox...but have heard that they aren't good for your gearbox...is that true?
and If i were going to get one, what brand should I go for..

 

[meddler]

I haven't heard that. I have had on fitted for at least 18 months with no problems. I know that Auss15 has had his fitted for quite a number of years without any issues.

As for brands, only C's make a short shifter for the 6 speed. Race.Fi was making one (http://forum.s15oc.com/showthread.p...ce-Ltd-Race.Fi-introduction&highlight=race.fi), but I haven't seen it for sale yet.

 

[LuPix_S15]

mmm... deffo interested in this. I'm gonna have a look at C's shifters

 

[pegliobaglio]

I had a b&m short shifter on my old car for over 2 years and that caused me no problems whatsoever,made a big difference though I have to say,makes the shift feel a lot more positive worthwhile addition I would say

 

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everytime I rev my engine up to 3000rpm whether it's on 2nd, 3rd, or 4th or 5th....and it starts to rattle when I let my foot off the gas pedal..
anyone know the cause of this?
cheers

 

[craig8585]

I can't see how they could ever damage the box. Mine rattles too sometimes like you describe.

 

[sx-si]

shifter wont damage the box just the guy driving it and how he drives the car

 

[tooley]

everytime I rev my engine up to 3000rpm whether it's on 2nd, 3rd, or 4th or 5th....and it starts to rattle when I let my foot off the gas pedal..
anyone know the cause of this?
cheers

simple you have a **** shifter. if they arnt made great they rattle. mates one used to rattle my one didnt.

 

[S15AK]

shifter wont damage the box just the guy driving it and how he drives the car

I did that, blow my box shifting into 4th to quickly when I was pushing it hard

I have the 5sp APEX short shifter, dosn't rattle anymore (just add tape), and it feels nice. I just need to get used to it more..

 

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simple you have a **** shifter. if they arnt made great they rattle. mates one used to rattle my one didnt.

My shifter is the factory S15 ones....

 

[craig8585]

And mine is a C's. Both of my S15's had this shifter and both rattled.

 

[tooley]

Could be that the plastic locator has warn abit then. Try taping it that could absorbe some of the vibrations

 

[andeep]

I've also heard that short shifters can damage the gearbox, I think I read this somewhere over on Driftworks. I don't see how I can can, but I suppose it makes the shift more aggressive as it reduces the throw and therefore the time taken to change gear.

 

[craig8585]

Buy wouldn't that just wear the synchros more? I really cant see it myself..

 

[andeep]

Buy wouldn't that just wear the synchros more? I really cant see it myself..

Yep I think that's what it said on DW, that it does indeed wear the synchros down which in the long run is not good for the gearbox or something.

 

[craig8585]

If the synchros wear then you'll get crunching on quick shifts as the gears don't get up/down to speed in time. Not a gearbox killer, but would require a rebuild with new cones. The amount of extra wear a short shifter would cause should be negligible. More down to driving style IMO.

 

[andeep]

If the synchros wear then you'll get crunching on quick shifts as the gears don't get up/down to speed in time. Not a gearbox killer, but would require a rebuild with new cones bad. The amount of extra wear a short shifter would cause should be negligible. More down to driving style IMO.

But won't the crunching cause damage to the gears themselves? Yep I agree, it's all down to the driving style that will kill a number of parts in the car.

 

[craig8585]

If it got to the stage of gears crunching then yes, the gears would become damaged but I wouldn't blame a short shifter for worn synchros. I'd blame mileage and driving style.
I suppose they have the potential to change gear fractionally faster than with the standard shifter but this difference wouldn't be nearly enough to cause excessive wear.

 

[TurboAL]

Like mention short shifters won't damage the box anymore unless you overly forcing the gearlever and "crunching the gears" when they arn't syncronised. I say "crunching gears" because your not actually crunching the gears themselves (unless of course your raming it into reverse) but you would be crunching the dog engagement. The most damage to a gear box would be caused by insufficient oil. Obviously the more power you put through the box the more wear will occur.

 

[TurboAL]

oh and on the same note, when going down the box i blip the throttle to pick the rev's up slightly so its easier for the gears to syncronise.