How do the locking collars fit with the s15 subframe having a strengthening bar?
Nicely, have you fitted yours? Could you take a couple of pics?
Nicely, have you fitted yours? Could you take a couple of pics?
Alu locking collars on s15. What about the rear bar?
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Just undo it, fit collars and bolt back on 
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Bry
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Mine went straight on :thumbs:
I take it the bottom full collar foes on first and then the reinforcement bar?
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Bry
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we just unbolted each bolt slid the collar in and bolted it back up and that was it
Just another thought. As the collar touches the chassis, would it wear away the underseal and start grinding?
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It isn't going to move when its bolted.
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Could someone please post pic's of these collars?
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Thanks Nicely,
So what are the pro's and con's of fitting these over using polly bushes?
Is it just that they are easier to fit, and would polly bushes be a better solution?
So what are the pro's and con's of fitting these over using polly bushes?
Is it just that they are easier to fit, and would polly bushes be a better solution?
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Ive got these and it does make for a harsher noisey ride but that just could be mine?
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yea i have them and definately noticed a lot more diff noise.
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The additional noise is diff noise being transmitted through the subframe. Can't really comment on pineapples as I've not fitted them. They'd obviously be more flexible. As easy to fit as the collars.
The difference fitting the collars was amazing. The back end became so sharp and tight that I nearly oversteered on the first roundabout I came to!
The difference fitting the collars was amazing. The back end became so sharp and tight that I nearly oversteered on the first roundabout I came to!
Here are some install steps for those that are confused,
http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92493&highlight=subframe+collars
I bookmarked it for my install soon to come.
http://www.240sxforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92493&highlight=subframe+collars
I bookmarked it for my install soon to come.
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Now I'm confused.
Nicely are you saying that fitting complete new poly bushes would be as easy as fitting the collars?
Watda and Zimmi you have which fitted the Collars or the bushes?
I think I am tending towards Bushes but if the fitting is going to be a hasal then I will go for the collars.
Nicely are you saying that fitting complete new poly bushes would be as easy as fitting the collars?
Watda and Zimmi you have which fitted the Collars or the bushes?
I think I am tending towards Bushes but if the fitting is going to be a hasal then I will go for the collars.
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i have the aluminum locking collars fitted, i fitted them myself very straight forward to do i think with pineapples you have to lift the whole subframe off to put them on which would be a fairly big job. i found the locking collars made a huge difference in handling like nicely said.
you guys have completely confused the situation.
there are 3 method i now to stiffen the rear subframe.
1. Alu Locking Collars..
these are available in complete rings or C shape. complete ring collars need to have the subframe droped to fit, but with the C shaped you can just loosen the mounts and prey it apart just enough to slit on c collar in.
Aslo with these you dont remove your original bushing. thses work by compressing your orginal bushing rubber given you the same effect of replacing the orginal bushing with stiff items.
2. Pineapples
These are very simlar to the lockng in which the slide in between or under the subframe depending on your setup grip or drift. they are also made of polyeruathne. not sure if the come in c shape. but if not will need to drop the sub frame to fit between. Also with these you dont remove your original subframe bushing. these work by changing your subframe angle and height which can give you more grip or loose grip depending on your requirements. these pineapple dont actually sqeeze the orginal rubber bushings at all.
3. replacing subframe bushings for stiffer items i.e. poly bushes.
This involve removing the original rubber bushing, which requires the subframe to be totally removed and haveing the old bushed pressed out.
if pressing is not a option.they can be removed by buring the rubber off so the centre metal peice willfall off. then using a hacksaw to remove the metal ring that the old rubber are pressed in on. some hammer action wil be need to get the metalring out. then new poly bush get squeezed in.
there are 3 method i now to stiffen the rear subframe.
1. Alu Locking Collars..
these are available in complete rings or C shape. complete ring collars need to have the subframe droped to fit, but with the C shaped you can just loosen the mounts and prey it apart just enough to slit on c collar in.
Aslo with these you dont remove your original bushing. thses work by compressing your orginal bushing rubber given you the same effect of replacing the orginal bushing with stiff items.
2. Pineapples
These are very simlar to the lockng in which the slide in between or under the subframe depending on your setup grip or drift. they are also made of polyeruathne. not sure if the come in c shape. but if not will need to drop the sub frame to fit between. Also with these you dont remove your original subframe bushing. these work by changing your subframe angle and height which can give you more grip or loose grip depending on your requirements. these pineapple dont actually sqeeze the orginal rubber bushings at all.
3. replacing subframe bushings for stiffer items i.e. poly bushes.
This involve removing the original rubber bushing, which requires the subframe to be totally removed and haveing the old bushed pressed out.
if pressing is not a option.they can be removed by buring the rubber off so the centre metal peice willfall off. then using a hacksaw to remove the metal ring that the old rubber are pressed in on. some hammer action wil be need to get the metalring out. then new poly bush get squeezed in.
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These are pineapples. They have a slit in each ring to enable fitting with existing bushes.
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Ive got alloy collars with the C cut out for the top ones